Brooklyn Museum interviews of artists, [ca. 1965-1968]

A Finding Aid to the Brooklyn Museum Interviews of Artists, 1965-1968, in the Archives of American Art, by Megan McShea

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Historical Information

The interview program at the Brooklyn Museum was begun by Arlene Jacobowitz in the spring of 1965 with artists whose works were on exhibition at the Brooklyn Museum. In 1968, excerpts from the interviews were incorporated into an exhibition entitled "Listening to Pictures," in which visitors could access the sound recordings using headphones while standing before the painting being discussed. The exhibition opened April 28, 1968, and was gradually disassembled, 1971-1973.

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Overview of the Collection

Scope and Contents

Interviews of 72 artists, and transcripts for all but five, conducted by Arlene Jacobowitz, the Associate Curator for the Department of Painting and Sculpture, between 1965 and 1968. The artists discuss their work in the museum collection. Also included are 38 edited excerpts of the interviews, approximately 2-3 min. in length, used as "audio-labels" in the 1968 "Listening to Pictures" installation.

The artists interviewed are: Lennart Anderson, Stephen B. Antonakos, Marshall Arisman, Walter Barker, Leonard Baskin, Mary Bauermeister, Thomas Hart Benton, Isabel Bishop, Robert Brackman, Sydney Butchkes, Edmund Casarella, George Constant, Robert Warren Dash, Jose DeCreeft, Blanche Dombek, Tom Doyle, Jimmy Ernst, Neil Estern, Philip Evergood, Helen Frankenthaler, Jane Freilicher, Leon Goldin, Sidney Goodman, Sante Graziani, Balcomb Greene, John Grillo, William Gropper, Chaim Gross, Roy Gussow, Robert Gwathmey, Grace Hartigan, Edward Hopper, Nora Jaffe, Paul Jenkins, Minoru Kawabata, William Kienbusch, Karl Knaths, John Koch, Yayoi Kosama, Jennett Lam, Steven Lang, Robert Laurent, Jacob Lawrence, Jack Levine, Jacques Lipchitz, Seymour Lipton, Boris Margo, Ursula Meyer, Hans Moller, Walter Murch, Louise Nevelson, Toshio Odate, Elliot Offner, Douglas Ohlson, Kenzo Okada, Amanda Palmer, Irene Rice Pereira, Gabor Peterdi, Ad Reinhardt, Bill Richards, Larry Rivers, Emilio Sanchez, Karl Schrag, Ben Shahn, Charles Sheeler, Aaron Sopher, Moses Soyer, Raphael Soyer, William Thon, Albert Weinberg, and William and Marguerite Zorach.

Arrangement and Series Description

The collection is arranged as a single series:

Subjects and Names

This collection is indexed in the online catalog of the Archives of American Art under the following terms:

Subjects:

  • Listening to pictures (1968-1973: Brooklyn Museum)

Subjects-Topical:

  • Artists -- United States -- Interviews
  • Art, American -- Exhibitions

Types of Materials:

  • Interviews
  • Transcripts

Names:

  • Anderson, Lennart, 1928-
  • Antonakos, Stephen, 1926-
  • Arisman, Marshall
  • Barker, Walter
  • Baskin, Leonard, 1922-2000
  • Bauermeister, Mary, 1934-
  • Benton, Thomas Hart, 1889-1975
  • Bishop, Isabel, 1902-
  • Brackman, Robert, 1898-
  • Butchkes, Sydney, 1922-
  • Casarella, Edmund, 1920-
  • Constant, George
  • Dash, Robert
  • De Creeft, José, 1884-
  • Dombek, Blanche, 1914-
  • Doyle, Tom
  • Ernst, Jimmy, 1920-1984
  • Estern, Neil, 1926-
  • Evergood, Philip, 1901-1973
  • Frankenthaler, Helen, 1928-
  • Freilicher, Jane, 1924-
  • Goldin, Leon, 1923-
  • Goodman, Sidney
  • Graziani, Sante, 1920-
  • Greene, Balcomb, 1904-1990
  • Grillo, John, 1917-
  • Gropper, William, 1897-
  • Gross, Chaim, 1904-
  • Gussow, Roy, 1918-
  • Gwathmey, Robert, 1903-1988
  • Hartigan, Grace
  • Hopper, Edward, 1882-1967
  • Jacobowitz, Arlene -- interviewer.
  • Jaffe, Nora
  • Jenkins, Paul, 1923-
  • Kawabata, Minoru, 1911-
  • Kienbusch, William, 1914-1980
  • Knaths, Karl, 1891-
  • Koch, John, 1909-
  • Kosama, Yayoi
  • Lam, Jennett, 1911-
  • Lang, Steven, 1944-1971
  • Laurent, Robert, 1890-1970
  • Lawrence, Jacob, 1917-
  • Levine, Jack, 1915-
  • Lipchitz, Jacques, 1891-1973
  • Lipton, Seymour, 1903-1986
  • Margo, Boris, 1902-
  • Meyer, Ursula, 1915-
  • Moller, Hans, 1905-
  • Murch, Walter
  • Nevelson, Louise, 1899-1988
  • Odate, Toshio
  • Offner, Elliot
  • Ohlson, Douglas Dean, 1936-
  • Okada, Kenzo, 1902-
  • Palmer, Amanda, 1931-
  • Pereira, I. Rice (Irene Rice), 1902-1971
  • Peterdi, Gabor
  • Reinhardt, Ad, 1913-1967
  • Richards, Bill, 1936-
  • Rivers, Larry, 1925-2002
  • Sanchez, Emilio, 1921-
  • Schrag, Karl
  • Shahn, Ben, 1898-1969
  • Sheeler, Charles, 1883-1965
  • Sopher, Aaron, 1905-1972
  • Soyer, Moses, 1899-1974
  • Soyer, Raphael, 1899-1987
  • Thon, William, 1906-
  • Weinberg, Albert
  • Zorach, Marguerite, 1887-1968
  • Zorach, William, 1887-1966

Provenance

This collection was donated to the Archives of American Art by Dierdre Lawrence of the Brooklyn Museum in 1989.

Separated and Related Materials

The Brooklyn Museum Archives houses the records of the Departments of European Painting and Sculpture, American Painting and Sculpture, Contemporary Art (1897-2005), which contain records relating to the work of Arlene Jacobowitz.

How the Collection was Processed

The sound recordings in this collection were preserved in digital format in 2009, at which time the metal cans in which the reels had been housed were discarded and replaced with archival plastic cans. The entire collection was re-housed, arranged, and described in 2010 by Megan McShea.


How to Use the Collection

Restrictions on Use

Use of original papers requires an appointment. Researchers may view the original reels for the archival notations on them, but original reels are not available for playback due to fragility.

Ownership & Literary Rights

Authorization to quote or reproduce for purposes of publication requires written permission from the interviewee.

Available Formats

All of the sound recordings in this collection were digitized for preservation and research access in 2009 and are available at the Archives of American Art offices.

Location of Originals

Almost all of the transcripts in this collection are photocopies. Original transcripts can be found in the Brooklyn Museum Libraries and Archives.

How to Cite this Collection

Interview between [artist's name] and [interviewer's name] from the "Listening to Pictures" program of the Brooklyn Museum. Gift of the Brooklyn Museum. Archives of American Art, Smithsonian Institution.

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Detailed Description and Container Inventory

Series 1: Interviews, 1965-1968
(Box 1-7; 7 linear feet)

This series contains interviews of 72 artists on 157 sound tape reels (1/4 in. tape). Jack Levine and John Koch were interviewed twice, so the collection contains 74 interviews total. Also found are brief excerpts of the interviews on 38 sound tape reels, made for the exhibition, "Listening to Pictures," an acoustiguide for a Walter Murch Retrospective exhibition on one sound tape reel, and a monologue by Elbert Weinberg on his painting, "Temptation of Eve" on one sound cassette. All interviews were conducted by Arlene Jacobowitz, Assistant Curator of Paintings and Sculpture at the Brooklyn Museum. Most of the interviews were recorded on one to three half-hour reels, except for the Ad Reinhardt and Walter Murch interviews, which are longer. Excerpts are typically between 2 and 3 minutes long. The interviews focus primarily on works by the artist that are in the museum's collection.

As noted in the box inventory below, transcripts are available for all but five interviews, as well as for the Murch acoustiguide and the Weinberg monologue. The interviews without transcripts include that of Stephen Antonakos, Jane Freilicher, Seymour Lipton, Walter Murch, and Elbert Weinberg. The Edward Hopper interview has a transcript only, and no original sound recording or excerpt.

Interviews, transcripts, excerpts, and other recordings are arranged alphabetically by interviewee.

All of the sound recordings have been digitized for preservation and research access.

Box Folder
1 1 Lennart Anderson
Original Interview, 1966 July 26
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1966
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
1 2 Stephen Antonakos
Original Interview, 1968 April 5
(2 sound tape reels)
1 3 Marshall Arisman
Original Interview, 1968 March 21
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1968
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
1 4 Walter Barker
Original Interview, 1965 May 3
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1965
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
1 5 Leonard Baskin
Original Interview, 1968 January 29
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1968
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
1 6-7 Mary Bauermeister
Original Interview, 1968 February 24
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1968
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
1 8 Thomas Hart Benton
Original Interview, 1966 July 7
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1966
1 9 Isabel Bishop
Original Interview, 1965 May 3
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1965
1 10 Robert Brackman
Original Interview, 1966 July 12
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1966
1 11-12 Sydney Butchkes
Original Interview, 1967 June 22
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1967
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
1 13 Edmund Casarella
Original Interview, 1966 May 18
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1966
1 14 George Constant
Original Interview, 1965 April 29
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1965
1 15 Robert Warren Dash
Original Interview, 1966 May 18
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1966
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
Box Folder
2 1-2 José DeCreeft
Original Interview, 1966 May 18
(3 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1966
2 3-4 Blanche Dombek
Original Interview, 1966 September 21
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1966
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
2 5-6 Tom Doyle
Original Interview, 1968 March 21
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1968
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
2 7-8 Jimmy Ernst
Original Interview, 1966 November 2
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1966
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
2 9 Neil Estern
Original Interview, 1966 June 2
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1966
2 10-11 Philip Evergood
Original Interview, 1966 May 18
(3 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1966
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
2 12-13 Helen Frankenthaler
Original Interview, 1966 May 23
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1966
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
2 14 Jane Freilicher
Original Interview, 1965 April 29
(1 sound tape reel)
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
2 15 Leon Goldin
Original Interview, 1965 April 29
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1965
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
2 16 Sidney Goodman
Original Interview, 1968 January 24
(1 sound tape reel)
Addendum, 1968 January 24
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1968
Box Folder
3 1 Sidney Goodman
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
3 2 Sante Graziani
Original Interview, 1968 January 29
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1968
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
3 3-4 Balcomb Greene
Original Interview, 1966 December 14
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1966
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
3 5-6 John Grillo
Original Interview, 1965
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1965
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
3 7 William Gropper
Original Interview, 1965 April
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1965
3 8 Chaim Gross
Original Interview, 1968 January 23
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1968
3 9-10 Roy Gussow
Original Interview, 1966 June 2
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1966
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
3 11 Robert Gwathmey
Original Interview, 1966 September 29
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1966
3 12 Grace Hartigan
Original Interview, 1965 April 20
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1965
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
3 13 Edward Hopper
Transcript, 1968
3 14-15 Nora Jaffe
Original Interview, 1967 June 14
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1967
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
3 16-17 Paul Jenkins
Original Interview, 1966 December 14
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1966
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
Box Folder
4 1 Minoru Kawabata
Original Interview, 1968 January 19
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1968
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
4 2 William Kienbusch
Original Interview, 1968 April 6
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1968
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
4 3-4 Karl Knaths
Original Interview, 1966 July 11
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1966
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
4 5-7 John Koch
(2 interviews)
Original Interview, 1966 May 20
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1966
Original Interview, 1968 February 15
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1968
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
4 8 Yayoi Kusama
Original Interview, 1968 January 19
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1968
4 9-11 Jennett Lam
Original Interview, 1966 July 26
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcripts, 1968, 1969
(In addition to the photocopied transcript produced by the Brooklyn Museum in 1968, there is an transcript prepared by the Archives of American Art in 1969, and a photocopy of the 1969 transcript with handwritten corrections.)
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
4 12 Steven Lang
Original Interview, 1967 June 15
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1967
4 13 Robert Laurent
Original Interview, 1966 July 6
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1966
4 14 Jacob Lawrence
Original Interview, 1968 March 21
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1968
4 15-16 Jack Levine
(2 interviews)
Original Interview, 1965 February 24
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1965
Original Interview, 1968 February 6
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1968
Box Folder
5 1 Jack Levine
Excerpt, 1968
5 2 Jacques Lipchitz
Original Interview, 1965 April 27
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1965
5 3-4 Seymour Lipton
Original Interview, 1966 May 20
(2 sound tape reels)
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
5 5 Boris Margo
Original Interview, 1968 March 21
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1968
5 6-7 Ursula Meyer
Original Interview, 1968 February 24
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1968
Excerpts, 1968
(2 sound tape reels)
5 8 Hans Moller
Original Interview, 1965 May 3
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1965
5 9-12 Walter Murch
Original Interview, between 1965 and 1967
(5 sound tape reels)
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
Retrospective Exhibition Acoustiguide 1967
(1 sound tape reel)
Retrospective Exhibition Acoustiguide Transcript, 1967
5 13-14 Louise Nevelson
Original Interview, 1965 May 3
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1965
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
5 15-16 Toshio Odate
Original Interview, 1968 January 19
(3 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1968
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
Box Folder
6 1 Elliot Offner
Original Interview, 1966 September 22
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1966
6 2-3 Douglas Ohlson
Original Interview, 1968 February 15
(3 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1968
6 4-5 Kenzo Okada
Original Interview, 1966 December 14
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1966
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
6 6-7 Amanda Palmer
Original Interview, 1968 February 16
Transcript, 1968
Excerpt, 1968
6 8 Irene Rice Periera
Original Interview, 1966 July 26
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1966
6 9-10 Gabor Peterdi
Original Interview, 1966 July 5
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1966
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
6 11-13 Ad Reinhardt
Original Interview, 1967 June 14
(4 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1967
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
6 14-15 Bill Richards
Original Interview, 1968 March 15
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1968
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reels)
Box Folder
7 1 Larry Rivers
Original Interview, 1966 June 8
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1966
Excerpt, 1968
(1 sound tape reel)
7 2 Emilio Sanchez
Original Interview, 1967 June 22
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1967
7 3 Karl Schrag
Original Interview, 1966 May 20
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1966
7 4 Ben Shahn
Original Interview, 1966 May 26
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1966
7 5 Charles Sheeler
Original Interview, 1965 April 27
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1965
7 6 Aaron Sopher
Original Interview, 1965 April 20
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1965
7 7 Moses Soyer
Original Interview, 1966 June 8
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1966
7 8 Raphael Soyer
Original Interview, 1966 June 10
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1966
7 9 William Thon
Original Interview, 1966 April 11
(1 sound tape reel)
Transcript, 1966
7 10-11 Elbert Weinberg
Original Interview, 1966 November 15
(2 sound tape reels)
Monologue on "Temptation of Eve," Original Interview, circa 1966
(1 sound cassette)
Monologue on "Temptation of Eve," Transcript, circa 1966
7 12 William and Marguerite Zorach
Original Interview, 1965 May 18
(2 sound tape reels)
Transcript, 1965